Both Sides of the Tupac Bein Alive Theory

[Rara Avis]

this was an article i wrote for the front page of a site i help run....

"ok...i just gotta say that i PERSONALLY believe 2pac is dead

but...some people believe one side others believe another...and...as everybody knows...the only good articles cover both sides of the story and arent biased

Info supporting Tupac being dead:

A lot of people truly believe that Tupac died On September 13, 1996. Below are reasons why he is not alive.


Is Tupac a fake? Is Tupac a cheat? Is Tupac a pussy? NO! Tupac always stressed how he was real, and that he was. The realest wouldn't fake his own death.

Wen Tupac said stuff like, "My time away just made perfection, do you think I'd die?" he wusn't talkinbout his death or anything like that, he was talkin bout other things. 'Pac's music always had hidden messages, that wus how talented he was. In this quote Tupac is talkin bout his time in jail.

If Tupac was alive, Puffy wudnt be as successful as he is now. Tupac wud hav dun sumthin by now. I see in some sites saying Tupac would have killed him, I dont believe that, but he wud hav dun sumthin.

The police sed they did not deny that the leaked Autopsy photo wus in fact Shakur's body even though it was not an official Police or Coroners photo.

The song Changes: Some of Tupac's friends say that he recorded this track but then regreted doing it and never wanted it to be released. If this is true then why did Afeni release it and why would Tupac sit back and watch his mother going against his will.
The Outlawz apparently said that it was recorded back in 1991. If so then why wasn't it released? It's a gd song.
But what I believe is that Tupac NEVER recorded this song. It was loads of words and quotes mixed together by producers hired by Afeni. This has been said by people who know their shit, who have looked at the song in depth. If this is so then Tupac would be very angry that his music is being tampered with so much, and being the kinda guy that spoke his mind, I'm sure he would at least let his mother know that he wasn't happy with it.

He wanted to do more films and become an actor. He told in an interview that he had made enough music and now he wanted to focus on his Acting. He had 3 albums already recorded at the time: Makaveli, Outlaw Immortalz, and One Nation.

Why would Tupac go to all the bother of setting up Makaveli Records, Euphasnia etc. if he was going to fake his death? Plus, he was about to set up his own Political Party and let us know that. He wanted to get deep into acting and produce and direct etc. Tupac knew his life was at it's peak and he had so much plans, he wouldn't throw it all away, especially when he was capable of all of it.

they think that it would be harder for Tupac to cope if he was alive. With all the people who aren't being true to his memory it would really hurt him. Especially the people that he loved. If he was alive right now he would just be back in the distance watching and couldn't do anything about it.

The album, Makaveli Tha Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory has brought a lot of speculation to Tupac fans. Well although Tupac had commissioned this album's cover and beats etc. before he died, that wouldn't stop Death Row Records from tampering with it. I think they inserted clues etc. in various songs to boost sales. In the advertisment for the album it clearly says, "LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY!" So Death Row are telling us to listen very carefully (and discover the clues that the inserted). This may not be true but Tupac is hardly gonna accuse his best friend of his murder at the start of the album. This album is real tight but I hate to think that it was fucked with against his will.

If Tupac was alive he wouldn't let what's going on with his music happen. One time in New York a man was selling Tupac's bootlegs and Tupac beat the crap into him in daylight. What's going on now is 10 times worse. Between all these bootlegs (All the Makavelis), Tupac's mom selling his music to other artists like Master P and Tupac's mom editing and remixing his music (not keeping it original), it's something that Tupac would absoloutly not tolerate. It's obvious Tupac is dead.

On a more factual side, if Tupac was alive that'd mean he hasn't been paying his taxes, because all the profits of his music have been goin to everyone else. Therefore, IF Tupac did reveal that he's alive, he'd go straight to jail for fraud and tax evasion among other things.

[Rara Avis]

Info supporting Tupac being alive:

Everyone seems to have their own opinion as to if Tupac will reappear in the year 2003. If the year comes and goes with no sign, then we should be all able to let him Rest In Peace.
Since fans want excitement and hype, I'm going to give
some theories on why SOME people think Tupac may re-appear in 2003. Take everything for what you will.

The Plot
This whole plot is about making a difference. And to make a difference in this world, you need cash. Pac didn't want to be like every other rapper that talked about making change, he actually wanted to do it. Weeks before his (fake) death, he was holding rallies to get minorities to vote. In his last interview,he talked of having a political party, and you need cash for that. Sure he was making money now (and I believe Pac was getting paid....don't believe everything you read), but you need a lot of money to have a political party. Now Pac is getting that money. Everything he is on, turns to gold. He is making loot now.

You see, I believe Suge and Pac's moms, is in on this too. They staging this little war to make it look real. I also believe Suge and Pac knew Deathrow was going down. Thats why everybody leaving. Nobody is that stupid to not know that the Feds are watching. Suge knew this and he has a plan. He is gonna drop all the blame on David Kenner. Everyone says Suge was just the muscle, and David was
the real head of Deathrow. Even C. Delores Tucker says this. Suge and Pac will hook in the future, I am sure. I also in no way, believe Suge set Pac up.
Why would you drive in the car with a man who will be shot at that many times. And Suge insisted that Pac ride with him. Why would Suge take the chance of being wounded seriously. This is common sense. If you got a hit on someone, don't be standing right next to the guy. These people who would of shot Pac would have to
be thugs, not Marksman. Cops don't even have that good of aim.also believe that Pac letting people know that he was recieving death threats (he brought extra bodyguards with him to the set of Gang Related, and let the director know he was recieving threats.), it could be used as a reason for faking his death.
He can gain sympathy. And if he went to jail for that, you thought the L.A. Riots were bad, and that was over some junkie named Rodney. This is Tupac. He would be a political prisoner, and would be out fast. They let Geromino Pratt out last year. Also Jesse Ventura won Governor, Hulk Hogan plan to run for President in 2000.
The World is changing.

Bad Boy
This one is scary. Could Pac really of had Biggie killed? I hope not, but it is kind of strange how there are 6 gunshots on Bomb First, and you don't hear him dis' Biggie no more in the rest of Don Kulliminati, then 6 months after Tupac died, Biggie died. This would be good on the side of Pac if he wanted to unite the Hip Hop Nation. All that would be standing in his way, would be Puffy, and
without Biggie, Puffy won't have the respect of the East Coast rappers (which is evident today). This makes it easier for Pac to unite everyone. Remember its not about East or West.
Which side are you on?
But as Machiavelli explains,
you can't just defeat your enemies, you must destroy them, give themno chance for retaliation. (Thats just a summary)

Gridlock'd Movie
Why all these damn 7's. When pac and Tim Roth (white guy) ask about sandwiches, the cook points up to the menu. Pac and the guy gaze at the board. (they look at it weird if ya ask me)
Then the camera goes to the menu (they actually highlight
the menu as if it symbolizes something) All the L's on the menu are replaced with upside-down 7's. And you can tell that they are 7's (check it out for yourself)
Then after seeing the picture of Pac and the guy on TV, the cook looks back and Pac and the guy, disappeared.

Gang Related Movie
1) In the beginning of the movie, Pac and Belushi wait in Rm. 7.
2) The bum in the movie, was missing for 7 years.
3) Tupac's badge number is 115(1+1+5=7) Now in what movie or TV show, do you get to see the badge number, or even get to clearly see the badge period. How come we only see Pac's numbers too. Why not Belushi's. Also the slogan of the movie is,
"The Best Place To Hide, Is Behind A Badge."
On the soundtrack, they have this slogan and the badge showing.


Thug Luv
1) Bizzy after his verse and before Pac, says, "He's alive, He alive"
2) Why would they do that? Why would they change their album name to Art Of War. A title of Machiavelli's book. They maybe down with the plot. They know what is up.

I Ain't Mad At Cha & Toss Em Up
1) Why was Ain't Mad At Cha the last video made by Tupac, and he dies in it, then his next video is Toss Em Up, by Makaveli. Then he breaks a mirror(7 years).
2) I believe this was planned. He breaks a mirror for no reason. Unless this shows that he is cursed with having to be in hideout for 7 years, then he gets to come back in 2003.

Don Kulliminati (7 Day Theory)
Who is the producer?
Simon! In the bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross.

Who was helping Pac with his burden?
... Suge Knight.
What's Joshua Dream?
Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead.

Why did Pac have Exit Tupac-Enter Makaveli?
Cause he is a new person. Tupac was killed off, but Makaveli will reappear.

Ambitionz Az A Ridah
"spittin' at adversaries envious and after me, I'd ratha die before they catch me, watch me bleed."
1) Could Pac have been telling us that he would rather die before his enemies get him first?

"When it's time to die and be a man and pick the way you leave, fuck peace and the police"
1) Pac always talks about leaving this world on your own terms. Did he pick his way to leave?

"Payoff the block, evade the cops, cause I know they coming for me. I've been hesitant to reappear, been away for years, now I'm back, my adversaries been reduced to tears, question my methods?"
1) That night in Las Vegas, no one seemed to have seen a damn thing. No matter how bad he wants to put an end to this this Puffy crap, he won't. Its not the right time. When he finally does, his enemies will flee, but many will question his methods and why he faked his death to unite, what he calles the "Nigga Kingdom."

No More Pain
"I dare you niggas to ultrafy, I'll murder that ass, and disappear before the cops come runnin'"
1) Pac got away before the cops came to see what actually took place in Las Vegas.

War Stories
"My Lyrics are Blue prints to money making"
1) He is telling us that what he is explaining in his lyrics are the Blue
Prints, meaning the Plan to making more money, by faking his death.

Aint Hrd to Find
The title is his way of challenging us to find him.
"I heard rumor I died, murdered in cold blood tramatized. Pictures of me in my final stages, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted, Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missing, But I'm worldwide baby, I ain't hard 2 find,"

1) This sound like Las Vegas to me. He was murdered in cold blood, the picture him in the final stage, is that fake autopsy pic, and his mama cried, but its fiction, like a drama movie (dramatized!!!)

"You tried to play me, now homicide is my only payment."
1) Biggie tried to play him, now who is dead?

"Breaking them off on sight, stopping lives on redlights, watch them pause as I pull my strap out my drawers, and get to dumping on their ass, like the last outlaw."
1) Sounds like the night Biggie died. Anyone can plan to kill someone in advance. And a red light would be easy. Your ass will have to stop sometime.


Hail Mary
c says, "run, quick, see, what do we have here now?"
This is what happen when everyone discovered Jesus has risen from the dead. Mary Magaline was the first who discovered Jesus was gone.
2) Prince Ital at the end keeps saying running from the penitenary, which Pac would be doing right now.
3) Check the video out. The tombstone is cracked, and Pac enemies are killed while a guy in jail is enjoying it (Suge Knight is in jail).
4) Okay this might be strecting but while the last of the Outlawz are rapping, listen to that sound that sounds like the wind. Well it actually souns like FATAL. Does it say 7 yearsssssssssss?
5) Also, 5 seconds into the beginning of the song, you hear Tupac in the backgrouns say "and they say....." What is it that he is actually saying?

Blasphemy
1) When the guy in the beginning says, "unless the Lord does return in the next 7 days...." after 7 days, listen for Pac to say, "7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me. Why does he say follow me? Cause he will return in 2003.
He will be a leader.

"living by the Nile while the water flow, I'm contemplating thoughts, wondering
which door to go, Brothas getting shot coming back resurrected."
2) He is plottin and wondering where to hide. He says he will get shot and come back. (Year 2003)

"I leave this here and hope God can see my heart is pure, is heaven just another door?"
3) Its like he is asking God's approval, hoping God will see his meaning for faking his death.


Also, this is a quote from a member of that site that i found interesting.

"No He's definately ALIVE
bullshit download a song by Black Haze

his voice sounds the EXACT FUCKING SAME

and i mean its eerie.. nobody has EVER seen black haze in a photo before.. there has been no photos/videos/etc.

NOBODY
come on now hes hiding under Black Haze alias"

[Tupac]

real goodn post rara...
I'll discuss this later...

[stevo3161]

That's good reading..

[cr@zyb]

Black Haze was PAC wannabe hes not real he dont even look like pac ive saw a pic of that fucker he made an album 1 song on that album sounded like FAKE PAC all da others SUCKED didnt even sound like him thats was back in 1998 he just did that to sell units on da cover it showed something that was dissing PAC he was LAME anyway just wanted to set da record straght

here ya go pic of FAKE PAC

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[lil_bitch]

Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you

[stevo3161]

Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you

Easy tiger!

[stevo3161]

Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is dead. so fuck me

Cr@zyb, you may have the last word.:cool:

[cr@zyb]

Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you

did i say he was or not and u should chill out and read da facts what how do u know he is or not u bring some proof to say that he anit dead go on

[stevo3161]

Bravo