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Old 11-08-2005, 12:47 PM   #21
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Re: Is Jay Z The Best Rapper Alive

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Reasons why GZA is the GOAT
- cause "words from the genius is better than every rakim album
- cause grandmasters is a classic
- cause rza said he is
- cause he never spoke a weak word
- cause he is the genius
- he also has a better flow than Ghostface
true dat.....his only not-so-strong point is his voice...and jay aint the best rapper alive ....
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:53 PM   #22
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Im happy at least no one here said eminem.
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:28 PM   #23
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Re: Is Jay Z The Best Rapper Alive

that's coz most of those who posted in this topics are black
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:39 PM   #24
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i'd put it on GZA
It's about Time Sombody mentioned GZA. His Imagry Is just out the roof. Lyrically He is better then both nas and Jay-z. And that Smooth flow he has is just Amazing. Know I know GZA hasn't had as much commercial sucess as Jay-Z, But that is one reson why I give Him So Much credit. Being Able to be in the game Longer then Jay-Z, And Still Being Able to Spit To His Full Potential He had back in the Early 90's and never selling out for the money.
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Re: Is Jay Z The Best Rapper Alive

^i second that.

But i'm not buying the shit about GZA being better than Rakim. Your are talking about two people who are masters at battling, punchlines, wordplay, and imagery. sometimes so suddle people don't catch on to it, i've been saying it for years:

...this is when wutang first showed, Gza has a verse that to ME rivals, unforgetable verses like Kane's on Marley Marl's Symphony and Redmans on Full cooperation..

"first of..who's ya' A&R?
a mountain climber, who plays..and electric guitar?
but he don't know the meaning of dope
when he's looking for a "suit and tie" rap,
that's cleaner than a bar of soap
and i'm the dirtiest thing in sight, matter fact
bring out the girls, and lets have a mud fight"

GZA is better than Nas, and Nas is handsdown one of the greatest.
Both are better than Jay, Jay was nice during Reasonable Doubt...
still, then you couldn't compare it to shit from Nas and Gza. Jay knows how to sell records, that's all...50 is doing the exact same shit and people fall for it! Does that also make 50 one of the best rappers of all time?! becuz he can entertain you! They're all crowd pleasers...those that wanna hear an artist with uniqueness and display lyricism that is vast and intelligible in writing will listen to GZA, Nas, or Rakim, and respect it. Those who don't care about extensive lyric ability but can enjoy a simple song that don't require much thought or imagination listen to 50 and Jay.

And if you think Gza is still better than Rakim, listen joints like "know the ledge", "follow the leader", and "Let the rhythm hit'em". He is and originator of sudle disses, sharply clever lines, and concept writing, before you heard some of Gza joints.

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^i second that.

But i'm not buying the shit about GZA being better than Rakim.
And if you think Gza is still better than Rakim, listen joints like "know the ledge", "follow the leader", and "Let the rhythm hit'em". He is and originator of sudle disses, sharply clever lines, and concept writing...
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Greatest rapper alive.... TECH N9NE.

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in the past it was Canibus.....
in the future it will be Royce Da 5'9....


jay-z is crap.........
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Re: Is Jay Z The Best Rapper Alive

Why do people act like Jay Z dont spit lyrical shit, or got some tight punchlines. Plus Reasonable Doubt wasnt even his best cd, blueprint was better. Listen to Diamonds Are Forever on Blueprint 2, Or the Watcher. Or on Blueprint listen to the lyricism on girls,girls,girls. Dynasty, Cant be Life, 1900 Hustle. Shit the Black Album was far from commercial, and he still sold shit. Listen to What More Can I Say,Moment of Clarity,99 Problems, December the 4th, the ***** gets raw. People just be hatin on him for no dam reason and making stupid fuckin comments about him after listenen to 2 of his tracks. Dont call a ***** commercial because he dont spit about serious,sad, shit all the time. He is an entertainer. He is the best alive, he can do it all, and got street cred. Hes done more for rap in the past 5 years than anyone in the game. Plus he done created a dynasty, and openin the door for future mc's. What other rapper has done that, you tell me.

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Hes done more for rap in the past 5 years than anyone in the game.
I think Jay-Z should be respected and I do think he's really good... Maybe people don't like him 'cause he got rich... I don't know...

But the originators like Rakim, KRS-One, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, etc., were the originators of classic hip hop. Rakim, to me, can't be fucked with when it comes to the best because he was doin' the complex shit and all that before anyone... I mean, talk about doin' more for rap... ask a real MC who their favorite rapper is... I bet half the dudes mention his name.

And it's disgusting when I hear these people who say they love rap and they know a couple underground dudes and they think they know what's up, but they have no clue who Rakim is? WTF? RAKIM...

Ra isn't my favorite rapper (Immortal Technique), but when I think of "the best rapper" his name just pops into my head.
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